Ryanairdontcare Campaign article on http://flights-blog.lowcostroutes.com/2012/02/new-cabin-crew-jobs-with-ryanair-hurry-up-or-not/ was placed on cabincrew.com Ryanair forum below.
http://www.cabincrew.com/forums/choose-your-potential-employer-carefully/175621/1
''There are plenty of airlines who will want what you have to offer and are more prepared to respect you accordingly.
The excitement of landing that 'dream job' can sometimes cloud our vision.
Whichever airline you decide to work for - don't let them bully you!
Join the union and encourage colleagues to do the same.
Interesting article below:''
http://flights-blog.lowcostroutes.com/2012/02/new-cabin-crew-jobs-with-ryanair-hurry-up-or-not/
BELOW IS THE FIRST REPLY............
Yeah, sure... if in 7 weeks you don't have as many lates as Sarah and as many No shows as Sarah, everyone will be fine.
Ryanair does make money from the workers, mainly due to the training costs and the uniform costs but they have to keep their workers on the company for at least 12 months to make money out of it. Why's that? Most crews choose to pay their training costs by installments, so they will deduct every month (for 6 months) an amount to pay the course. Also, every month (during 12 months) they will be deducting the fee for uniform... so if you left only after 7 weeks they will not be making money... oh but let me add that in the end of the 12 months they will give you around €300 as a compensation for what you paid for your uniform, so in the end it was like if you haven't paid that... the same for the course, over 6 months they will give you an allowance of €1200...
But yeah, bottom line, get to know your potential employer and make sure you know how things works and pay attention to the Assessment/Open Days because everything is explained there... that way we would see less things like "oh they are charging me for training"; "oh they are charging me for uniform"...
Cheers!
Miguel Santos
John said,
In answer to Miguel Santos,
Over 60% of Probationary Cabin Crew WILL be TERMINATED before the Twelfth month ''Guarenteed''
Once Terminated any on board commission made is kept by Ryanair.Any new joiner allowance is returned.The full amount of 360 Euro is taken for the Ryanair Uniform.If you are from UK and based in Spain,you make your own way home.NO FLIGHT.All in all exploited for ever penny...Your last months salary will be ZERO..It is very rare to get Terminated 11th to 22nd of each month as your salary is not large enough..Ryanair in most cases wait till your salary is above 800 Euro...
Do you still want to join Europe's Greatest Training Robbers ''RYANAIR'' ???????
Your opinion on what you have read ''you of course have not read this blog'' As for party all night in Dublin were she was based,She lived 20 minutes by bus to airport and 1 hour to Dublin,worked over 42 flights in the first 14 rostered days,think she was a bit over worked to have nights out at this early stage on her work plus she did not know anybody apart from one cc.She did miss her family but was exited to be cabin crew.
As for Sarah's responsability at work,since 14 years of age she worked in a family jewellers at weekends and school holidays,selling- stock checking and banking,,,''non existent you say''...How do you know Sarah had huge amount of attendence issues in 7 weeks ????? because Ryanair say so!!!!!! Interesting...
Cover up you say,this is a word used to disribe Ryanair by unions, no need to cover up,it was her Job not her parents Job......Jobs come and go right,it is part of life to loose a job sometimes ,it all depends on WHY and What For...Confess to what !!!!!! If you feel scammed no need to confess right....As for making money off workers, No you are wrong workers make a succesfully company and are not their to exploit.
Cabin crew training fee and uniforms are only a very small part of the Recruitment scam by Ryanair...The agent used by Ryanair who are paid millions extra in wages from Ryanair but keep them and do not pass them on to probationary cabin crew,that is one part of the Bigger SCAM....Lining O'Leary and Bonderman's pocket...
Look at this Guy Malchiwka who is on cabincrew.com to answer questions new recruits have...He has been doing this for 6 months as a direct result of Ryanairdontcare Campaign..Telling new recruits the trueth about working at Ryanair will loose revenue for Ryanair and Malchiwka will not tell you the whole truth ''Guarenteed''.
Ryanairdontcare Campaign will help new recruits more by telling you ''Ryanair exploit probationary cabin crew''. and you have been warned.........................
Ryanairdontcare Campaign was set up as a direct result of exploitation of my daughter at Ryanair.Three years on it is still here for you all....................We are not profit orientated we are EXPLOITATION orientated and it must stop....
Ryanairdontcare Campaign are the only anti Ryanair Campaign that Michael O'Leary will not talk about.....
malchiwka
look john http://www.cabincrew.com/forums/general-info-and-questions-about-fr-read-1st/175634/1
http://www.cabincrew.com/forums/choose-your-potential-employer-carefully/175621/1
''There are plenty of airlines who will want what you have to offer and are more prepared to respect you accordingly.
The excitement of landing that 'dream job' can sometimes cloud our vision.
Whichever airline you decide to work for - don't let them bully you!
Join the union and encourage colleagues to do the same.
Interesting article below:''
http://flights-blog.lowcostroutes.com/2012/02/new-cabin-crew-jobs-with-ryanair-hurry-up-or-not/
BELOW IS THE FIRST REPLY............
Yeah, sure... if in 7 weeks you don't have as many lates as Sarah and as many No shows as Sarah, everyone will be fine.
Ryanair does make money from the workers, mainly due to the training costs and the uniform costs but they have to keep their workers on the company for at least 12 months to make money out of it. Why's that? Most crews choose to pay their training costs by installments, so they will deduct every month (for 6 months) an amount to pay the course. Also, every month (during 12 months) they will be deducting the fee for uniform... so if you left only after 7 weeks they will not be making money... oh but let me add that in the end of the 12 months they will give you around €300 as a compensation for what you paid for your uniform, so in the end it was like if you haven't paid that... the same for the course, over 6 months they will give you an allowance of €1200...
But yeah, bottom line, get to know your potential employer and make sure you know how things works and pay attention to the Assessment/Open Days because everything is explained there... that way we would see less things like "oh they are charging me for training"; "oh they are charging me for uniform"...
Cheers!
Miguel Santos
John said,
In answer to Miguel Santos,
Over 60% of Probationary Cabin Crew WILL be TERMINATED before the Twelfth month ''Guarenteed''
Once Terminated any on board commission made is kept by Ryanair.Any new joiner allowance is returned.The full amount of 360 Euro is taken for the Ryanair Uniform.If you are from UK and based in Spain,you make your own way home.NO FLIGHT.All in all exploited for ever penny...Your last months salary will be ZERO..It is very rare to get Terminated 11th to 22nd of each month as your salary is not large enough..Ryanair in most cases wait till your salary is above 800 Euro...
Do you still want to join Europe's Greatest Training Robbers ''RYANAIR'' ???????
Your opinion on what you have read ''you of course have not read this blog'' As for party all night in Dublin were she was based,She lived 20 minutes by bus to airport and 1 hour to Dublin,worked over 42 flights in the first 14 rostered days,think she was a bit over worked to have nights out at this early stage on her work plus she did not know anybody apart from one cc.She did miss her family but was exited to be cabin crew.
As for Sarah's responsability at work,since 14 years of age she worked in a family jewellers at weekends and school holidays,selling- stock checking and banking,,,''non existent you say''...How do you know Sarah had huge amount of attendence issues in 7 weeks ????? because Ryanair say so!!!!!! Interesting...
Cover up you say,this is a word used to disribe Ryanair by unions, no need to cover up,it was her Job not her parents Job......Jobs come and go right,it is part of life to loose a job sometimes ,it all depends on WHY and What For...Confess to what !!!!!! If you feel scammed no need to confess right....As for making money off workers, No you are wrong workers make a succesfully company and are not their to exploit.
Cabin crew training fee and uniforms are only a very small part of the Recruitment scam by Ryanair...The agent used by Ryanair who are paid millions extra in wages from Ryanair but keep them and do not pass them on to probationary cabin crew,that is one part of the Bigger SCAM....Lining O'Leary and Bonderman's pocket...
Look at this Guy Malchiwka who is on cabincrew.com to answer questions new recruits have...He has been doing this for 6 months as a direct result of Ryanairdontcare Campaign..Telling new recruits the trueth about working at Ryanair will loose revenue for Ryanair and Malchiwka will not tell you the whole truth ''Guarenteed''.
Ryanairdontcare Campaign will help new recruits more by telling you ''Ryanair exploit probationary cabin crew''. and you have been warned.........................
Ryanairdontcare Campaign was set up as a direct result of exploitation of my daughter at Ryanair.Three years on it is still here for you all....................We are not profit orientated we are EXPLOITATION orientated and it must stop....
Ryanairdontcare Campaign are the only anti Ryanair Campaign that Michael O'Leary will not talk about.....
malchiwka
look john http://www.cabincrew.com/forums/general-info-and-questions-about-fr-read-1st/175634/1
4 comments:
GOOD POST
of course the whole idea is to terminate them before the 12th month of employment. that is the core concept.
After looking at a few posts on cabincrew com i can tell Malchiwka is used by ryanair to keep new recruits happy.I can see new recruits for any airline need help and the ryanair forum need more help as there is a large training fee.these new recruits need to be happy before they join ryanair or no fee for training will be paid.
if it is true about termination level at ryanair then Malchiwka is needed.new recruits need to consider the bad points first and if they join ryanair they must join a union.
Re: above
The whole problem is, if they join the union they will be sacked from Ryanair.
Ryanair does not allow any union. That's what it is all about.
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